12 June 2005

More Torture Myths

Shocking Time cover story reveals horrific torture of the 20th hijacker!

The log reads like a night watchman’s diary. It is a sometimes shocking and often mundane hour-by-hour, even minute-by-minute account of a campaign to extract information. The log records every time al-Qahtani eats, sleeps, exercises or goes to the bathroom and every time he complies with or refuses his interrogators’ requests. The detainee’s physical condition is frequently checked by medical corpsmen—sometimes as often as three times a day—which indicates either spectacular concern about al-Qahtani’s health or persistent worry about just how much stress he can take. Although the log does not appear obviously censored, it is also plainly incomplete: there are numerous gaps in the notes about what is said and what is happening in the interrogation booth beyond details like "Detainee taken to bathroom and walked for 10 minutes," TIME reports.


Hmm, frequent doctor visits, food and water, a place to sleep. That's torture all right.

From a CNN report on the Time story:
The interrogation techniques included refusing al-Qahtani a bathroom break and forcing him to urinate in his pants.

"It's not appropriate," said Sen. Chuck Hagel on CNN's "Late Edition." "It's not at all within the standards of who we are as a civilized people, what our laws are.

"If in fact we are treating prisoners this way, it's not only wrong, it's dangerous and very dumb and very shortsighted," the Nebraska Republican said.

"This is not how you win the people of the world over to our side, especially the Muslim world."


Uhhh, having a terrorist suspect piss himself isn't torture. And this is precisely how we should treat prisoners when they're being interrogated if A) it works and B) it isn't torture. I see nothing dangerous, dumb, or shortsighted about it. I further disagree with Sen. Hagel that these kind of interrogation tactics are going to alienate Muslims. Any reasonable Muslim is going to understand that the terrorist suspects are being held for a good reason and that they aren't being mistreated. Unreasonable Muslims are going to hate the US no matter what we do. Hagel's view is based on the stereotype of Muslims being uneducated and conservative. Far from it, they're highly educated and nuanced political thinkers.

What is shortsighted and dangerous is MSM outlets sensationalizing the treatment of prisoners, printing outright lies, and failing to fully explain just how fair the prisoners are actually being treated!

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Quote: "Although the log does not appear obviously censored, it is also plainly incomplete: there are numerous gaps in the notes about what is said and what is happening in the interrogation booth beyond details like "Detainee taken to bathroom and walked for 10 minutes...""

So, what they're saying is, the absence of any description of actual torture is evidence that torture occurred? WTF?

Posted by: Salvius | 14 June 2005

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